| Episode: | E118 |
| Show Title: | Plan Build Tasmania Portal Launches |
| Cast: | Aaron Horne, Patrick Berry & John McGregor |
| Show Length: | 18 minutes 35 seconds |
This week the 4one4 Property Co. Property Pod Team discuss the new online portal that can help all users, including property owners, property developers, industry professionals, the general public and other agencies.
Plan Build Tasmania allows anyone to enter an address in the portal to see what planning zones and codes apply to a property.
A Property Report can be generated which includes maps, details of the planning zone, codes and other information that affect the selected property.
Transcript:
Patrick Berry
I’m selling a property at a Racecourse Road, Brighton. And someone asked me the other day, was it heritage listed? And I was like, I’ve no idea. I just acted. This tells me it is. Oh, really? We ended up doing what you did and going into the register and looking it up. But this plan, Bill, just brings it straight up, and it tells me it’s heritage number and everything.
Patrick Berry
So it’s a pretty cool problem.
John McGregor
Going on. It’s going quite well. So you’re living near the property.
Aaron Horne
All right, guys, welcome back to the property part. Your Wakelin guys been here and the real estate in the Hobart marketplace. I’m your host, Aaron Horne. And as always, I’m joined by superstars of real estate here in Tasmania, John McGregor and Patrick Barry. Welcome back. Team.
Patrick Berry
Thanks for having us back.
Aaron Horne
Well, look, it’s so good that it rolls around to the day that I set up the studio and you guys decide like, yeah, I’m going to roll in and I’m going to get ready and look, Jon’s in he’s in his work attire, so he probably wasn’t planning on coming and chatting with us this morning. But we do appreciate that you’ve found the time, my friend.
John McGregor
Well, I was hoping by the time I’d finish up at home I’d have time to go back and have a shower and get back and look somewhat respectful. But in the end, given the nature of what we’re planning to talk about, it kind of fitted in.
Aaron Horne
It does work. So you basically put on a costume for today.
John McGregor
That’s pretty much it. I wasn’t right about this.
Aaron Horne
I like we were caught this pretty early in the morning.
John McGregor
Good luck.
Aaron Horne
What time do you get up to think like, I’m going to get some real hardcore renovations done then don’t have time to have a shower. They don’t have time to put on new clothes on. Then I’ll get to the office.
John McGregor
Well, admittedly, you know that a couple of days ago I was up at five 30 this morning up at six 30. But I just needed to finish off getting some little bits of insulation in before the shade is finished off a bit.
Patrick Berry
Man, your neighbors must love you like, just bang, bang, bang at five 30 in the morning. There was no.
John McGregor
Bang. And it’s just. Just gentle.
John McGregor
Cutting.
Aaron Horne
Oh, for the guys. How’s it coming along? Tell us about how the rhinos are going.
John McGregor
We will. When when you nail the sheets are up like the plaster. Zed, it’s it’s the instant that you start to see that it can be a home now. Yeah, because the old we’ve just had exposed walls all throughout half the house. And, of course, it’s taken way longer than it should. And I think it’s a good lesson on project management.
John McGregor
Is it? Obviously, I love the vision and the design of it, but coordinating, you know, trades to be on time to finish those jobs it’s not easy. And when you’ve got when you’re working full time and the fact it’s not actually my strong point.
John McGregor
Let’s get to the best of times gemstones on another part of me so.
John McGregor
But it’s come along well now now now the place is up you know you can see the nations in the bathrooms everything. So it’s like okay now I can start to see the vision actually coming together now that the kitchen design I can finish off before the measurement so it should be.
Patrick Berry
So so what you’re basically saying is the fundamental components are done and now you’re just making it look pretty, pretty much.
Aaron Horne
You know, sweat. So it’s a functional space almost. Yes. Yeah.
John McGregor
So that was.
Aaron Horne
Excellent. That was on our roof. Just on everyone’s tricep. Yeah. Very good. Pat, you’ve been up and away on the Gold Coast Suns actually for one, for a sponsored bike rider chaos racing team.
Patrick Berry
We sure do sponsor a racing team mainly. So I can get take trips.
John McGregor
But.
Patrick Berry
I’ll take what I can get. Yes, my boy. I competed in the Oceania Championships on the weekend in BMX racing, so that was fun.
Aaron Horne
So as you’re describing the the set up to me, like this is like a facility that like a bicycle Olympic facility. Like obviously BMX is in the Olympics now, but like this where you were racing was somewhere where Olympians try at the end of the day were racing as well as training. Yeah, that’s.
Patrick Berry
Correct. So being an Oceania event, it’s a UCI event. So UCI is like the World Bicycle Organization first sporting. Yeah. And to qualify for the World Championships, which you need to go to, to have any chance of being selected as an Olympian, you need to qualify certain UCI events, and this was one of them on the weekend. So yeah, it’s really good.
Aaron Horne
And then you also saying that your son was Parker was riding into.
Patrick Berry
Yeah, that’s how you ride the bike. My boy does how he does 20 inch and 24 inch. So he does anywhere up to ten races on a weekend where most kids will do somewhere between three to five. So yeah, he had a pretty intense week in racing.
John McGregor
Is it the size of the bike or the size?
Patrick Berry
The hills size of the wheels is 20 and 24 inch. So yeah, small hill, 24 inches tall.
John McGregor
I don’t know.
John McGregor
I was watching that race trying to catch him, watching those distressful because they just happened so quick. But some of those kids had to.
Patrick Berry
See stacks to pack. It was one of them. Yeah.
Aaron Horne
But yeah. I don’t know if you. Have you seen the footage now.
John McGregor
Not his one yet now.
Aaron Horne
So a.
John McGregor
Lot of stories we saw a couple of his.
Aaron Horne
Where I said this is like park is wheel bursting and then him flipping over the top of the it is crazy to give.
John McGregor
Birth. Yeah.
Patrick Berry
So he didn’t have the best race weekend on his 20 inch but yeah these things happen. Yeah. Yeah. But made finals on his 24th so he was pretty pumped with the effort. So it was great.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. Not look like a cracking weekend away and it’s always good to get away from it.
Patrick Berry
He just loves watching the pros. Yeah. Watching those guys race is next level.
Aaron Horne
You sound like the big bash with like fire out of.
Patrick Berry
The fire shooting out and like they all get their intro song and flashing lights is like.
John McGregor
Yeah it’s a.
Patrick Berry
Really good way they make the pros race at the end.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, not, not very good. Well of what we’ve been doing I went to Launceston, it was lovely. Had a wonderful time to introduce my son Henry Ronald to his great grandfather, Ronald Henry. Oh, so they’ve got the inverse of each other’s names and all the nice little homage to one another. Yeah, it’s lovely. I had up there and we just played at the park in Launceston, which is just next level park.
Patrick Berry
Yeah, it is a good park.
Aaron Horne
The ultimate in parks. Yeah. Even John, I think as a grown up, you’d still have fun there. There’s like this giant web, this net. Yeah, that is like, it looks like something of gladiators that.
Patrick Berry
Is good, especially when you climb to the top with. The other one I like is the swing that goes into the big pits. Where’s that?
Aaron Horne
Is that the car park? Is that in the grown up section?
Patrick Berry
Now you know where the big web is and like the big walking tower along on the roof. Yeah, yeah. Just off to the side of that was this big giant.
Aaron Horne
Oh, man. Like you would not believe at J-Mac like you are. So I did. Actually, the first time I did it was after a wedding really, really hung over. It was a really dangerous, terrible idea. And, yeah, I got about three quarters. I was like, well, there’s no going back in hell. And I was getting the sweats.
John McGregor
I mean, what.
Patrick Berry
I find weird about these playgrounds, because I go to a lot with my kids, that spider would be described. Yeah. Like, by the time you get to the top of that thing, you’re, what, two stories? Three stories tall.
Aaron Horne
And three stories at least.
Patrick Berry
And there’s nothing stopping you from falling, do you do?
John McGregor
That’s that’s how Park should be. Yeah. Yeah, it’s a risk of danger. That’s what makes it fun.
Aaron Horne
It’s like an eighties park. Yeah. It’s like yeah. Yeah. If there’s not sharp edges that could kill you, it’s not worth it. All right, speaking of sharp edges that could kill you and things needing to be looked after, I’m probably planning for events like this to.
John McGregor
Look at that. Like, got.
Patrick Berry
I wanted to jump. Why?
Aaron Horne
I wanted to jump into this new online portal that was kind of released. Elise Archer has been championing this recently, so it’s called Plan B with Tasmania. And John, with your attire, it would just be silly not to throw to you. And have you kind of go into what Plan B? Well, Tasmania kind of is trying to achieve and yet what they’re doing to get off the ground.
John McGregor
Seems to me like the most simple way to understand it is just it’s an online portal that they’re driving to do that, where you can go through the application phase through to the approval phase, to the, you know, signing off for any, any renovations adjustments to the property that you need to do that require council approval.
Patrick Berry
Yeah, and stepping back from that, it allows you just to research any property in Tasmania and just first find out the zoning of what it is and then allows you to sort of start the conversation to see what you want to do on the property is technically possible.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. So that was the bit that kind of pick my is because I know that you had a property down in battery point for sale. That was. Yeah, kind of a rare, rare sale. It’s on a really, really great spot. Yeah. And I’m sure people looking into purchasing that would be wondering like, well what can I do with this light?
Aaron Horne
Can I turn it into a business? Can I eBay and buy it out, which is a whole other topic at the moment. But yeah. Is that something like people have been asking you about in regards to that property.
John McGregor
With that one with mixed urban use, we ended up on that go into the building code or the zoning, you know, area and then print off that section because it’s actually all the resources to be able to quickly find it. It’s actually really difficult. So. Oh, just.
Aaron Horne
Is it.
John McGregor
Well known? Oh yeah. Not name. Oh, well, I wouldn’t say, you know, it’s nothing. It’s not difficult, but it actually took me a while to try and just extract exactly what we’d need to be able to provide that to a client and yeah.
Aaron Horne
So I guess yeah. Where my then thinking from there is like if you’ve had some trouble trying to navigate that and you’re specifically looking for it as somebody that’s selling the property like yes, in this area, if you’re just a layman and you’re kind of wanting to find this stuff that seems like it would be really even more difficult.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. Yeah. So this plan build things seems to be like something to take all that stress out of it and give you a bit of insight into it. Is that kind of what we’re thinking?
John McGregor
Well, I suppose to the I mean, the other thing from the Council is, well, if I can, if I give people a way to be able to do a lot more research than they can, that doesn’t involve walking into into the council because at the moment is pretty much all you can do. The only real option is to just, you know, which is fine like that often they’re really, really helpful.
John McGregor
Um, however, you know, it’s not always available for people and sometimes it might just be something as small as, you know, getting a garden shed on their um, so to have these online resources to make these general inquiries and get, you know, good support, same good sound advice, same, you know.
Patrick Berry
Game change. How long did it take you to find out the zoning when you were researching this property battery point?
John McGregor
Well, it’s hard to find out how out to do is go through the list to the map stage to take out mixed urban use. And then I had to go to I plan extract the.
Patrick Berry
John McGregor
Just did it. Exactly.
Aaron Horne
So I was like I could save papers like throw you in for a bit of travel easily and I just found it John John this.
Patrick Berry
We’re gonna have to like implement this all our stuff it’s a great product.
John McGregor
And to like you know even the dollar before you dig product like that’s that you know same thing where.
Aaron Horne
So when I when I kind of read about this the first time I was like, oh, this sounds like da before you dig. But like on steroids or to the next level where it’s literally kind of go to this place and it will give because it gives you like, you know, the gas lines and all the other things.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. Yeah. A property report can be generated with maps, details of the planning codes, not the information that affect the selected property. So is that like this is I’m just spitballing here, is that like the easements and stuff as well, like when someone says, oh, there’s arrangement on that kind of stuff there, you don’t so all that stuff would be accessible here at this plan build.
Patrick Berry
Yeah, I’ve just created the PDF on John’s property, a battery point while we sit here and it’s a five page PDF, it generates and it’s literally got everything. It’s got the zoning, it’s got where the water pipes are running. We’ve test water, it’s got no power lines. That’s awesome.
John McGregor
And sewerage because at the moment for that, what, what do we have to do is, like I said, get out the mixed urban use definition and print those pages out or, you know, service PDF before you dig, which is a great service. And then that will give you like response from the ten different players suppliers. We end up getting a direct call from Tesco saying, Hey, you’re doing something, you know what’s going on here.
John McGregor
But then of course within their separate attachment again. So then we, you know, it takes a while to put this whole report together just to do what you did in 20 seconds.
Patrick Berry
That’s good, that’s good.
John McGregor
I’m trying to.
Patrick Berry
Game it.
John McGregor
Is. Oh that’s in the air is done. Oh my God, no. Nevada, they.
Patrick Berry
Probably live.
John McGregor
Out the dead actually.
Aaron Horne
They stick a fork in, they are done.
John McGregor
It’s kind of like at a school, like all the cool stuff used to happen and we didn’t need it.
Patrick Berry
I think what I really like about it is a lot of agents love to write about a property. Yeah, and then they’ll say unit development is available subject to council approval in brackets and then they leave it to the purchaser to actually go and figure out if the story that they’re spinning is actually true and correct. Yeah. And if it’s actually possible to do it.
Patrick Berry
And then they wipe the hands of it because they can say, well, I said it was subject to council approval. That’s on you to figure out if it actually is.
Aaron Horne
Oh, I never knew it. So that Stacy that sits on a bunch of things that’s built sound like I’m not going to look into it. You can go.
Patrick Berry
Look but basically saying, look, we reckon you can put a unit in the backyard, but we’re not an expert in the topic. So we’re going to put this disclaimer here to get ourselves out of trouble.
Aaron Horne
This is me. Throw my hands in the air. I never knew that. Oh, wow.
Patrick Berry
This is great for that because you can, as I consumer well, they’re saying I can build a unit. You can quickly jump on here and it may throw a red flag for you straight away and you can be like with bullshit.
John McGregor
Yeah. It’s a title. Can I say that? Yeah.
Aaron Horne
You could say we’ve had we’ve had, I think two or three other shits on the podcast before and that generally you guys.
Patrick Berry
So a glass that allows a little bit more transparency. And for us as agents, we can do a quick research on the property and like, oh, okay, the zoning meets the criteria and you know, the the size of the block meets the criteria is a few things there. We can take off. So we feel a little bit more comfortable of putting that claim out there.
Patrick Berry
Absolutely. But a purchaser can do their own research as well with this website. So it’s actually pretty cool.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. So looking on the notes notes here, it basically says the plan build Tasmania’s aim is to deliver a consistent, transparent and streamlined application process. To all users, property owners, property developers, industry professionals, general public and other agencies. So yeah, it’s trying to take all that stress and headache out of it. Like how many times you hear like, oh yeah, we’re trying to get this thought about, you know, we’ve got to go get it through council.
Aaron Horne
We don’t even know if it’s going to happen. Yeah. So rather than getting like 50 kilometers down the road, it’s kind of like, Oh yeah, we can find out this stuff early.
John McGregor
Well, effectively the only real way of doing it was to submit it in big envelopes bit by post or by, you know, giant emails so this, you know, obviously they’ve got all their forms, but this first phase one, I think it describes is that, um.
Patrick Berry
Oh, I’ll jump in and help you, John. Phase one is really just the inquiry stage. So, you know, looking at the property, what’s possible, being able to download the report and then also seeing how it works within the Tasmanian Planning Scheme. So one thing that came out, I don’t know the exact year, but a while back we now change to a statewide planning scheme where it used to be that every council had their own different planning scheme and so you could do different things in different councils where now we just have the one uniformed planning scheme which allows systems like this to work because now that we’re all under the same scheme, the rules apply to
Patrick Berry
the same people everywhere.
John McGregor
Yeah, definitely. That was both then because it says the next one once the phase two will be that you can actually start doing the applications through the software, etc. But obviously this phase one, which is great because they’re going to be, you know, it’s, it’s live and it’s, but it’s up to me more than beta testing but they’re not going to sit there and throw it all on the table straight away because it would just cause a mess.
John McGregor
But I think this, you know, inquiry stage and research stage is brilliant.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. Like so yeah, it’s got here that phase one is inquiry phase two application. It’s even got things like you’re paying your phase or purchase the certificate of title track the status of an application upload documents. I guess it’s that same thing of being like a given it to them, but it could just be sitting on someone’s desk waiting to be done like this way.
Aaron Horne
It’s kind of you can sit there and you can sit there and say like, oh yeah, it’s at this stage of the process and like this is waiting to be approved sort of thing. So that’s coming later in 20, 22. It would be awesome if we could find someone to talk to about it, maybe call to kind of get, go further down this rabbit hole because yeah.
Aaron Horne
It pricked my ears. I thought it would pick your ears. Yeah. Look, listen to it.
John McGregor
Get out. Hey, look for anyone who’s listening Chris was it plan build doctors dot gov that are, you know, sort of, you know, because it’s been in the works for a long time but also when you know you know, dumped on, it’s like, holy moly. I didn’t even realize this was coming.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, yeah. No, it’s so yeah. We’d looked into it. We discussed it. So we’re planning a blog post and actually then hopefully from there we can Yeah. Pop that into the probably pod magazine, which I’d be a really excited to announce that.
John McGregor
I drive.
Aaron Horne
That addition to is just gone live. It is adding some of your coffee shops and places around Hobart. If you are a property pod listener and you’d like a copy, just reach out and we can definitely arrange one to be sent to you also online we love kind of. Yeah, going cross-platform. So yeah, at issue I s I w I believe it is, we can correct that but yeah I it’s spot on, you know that, Denise.
Aaron Horne
I know people.
Patrick Berry
Nope. You’re correct. You’re spot.
John McGregor
On.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. You can head there and have a look at. Yeah. All of the property pod magazine in all of its glory. So yeah. Really, really good. Read a bunch of stuff about falling for in there, but also a bunch of stuff about the local community and things that we’ve covered off in the property pod over the, over the journey.
John McGregor
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you now so you arms why did you find something cool again? Did you make.
John McGregor
Oh yeah.
Patrick Berry
I just got excited. I’m selling a property at a Racecourse Road Brighton and someone asked me the other day was it heritage listed? And I was like, I’ve no idea. I just in this tells me it is. Oh really? We ended up doing what you did and going into the register and looking it up. But this plan build just brings it straight up and it tells me it’s heritage number and everything.
Patrick Berry
So it’s a pretty cool product.
Aaron Horne
All right. So from here on out, I’ll be taking a little, little slice it to me. I bring the plan to you, boss. I would just like a little little slice of being like, Oh, you’re saving so much.
John McGregor
Then it’s up to something.
Aaron Horne
Look, it’s cool. I thought it was cool. I’m glad that it has turned out to be. And look, it’s blown. Mine’s already, hopefully continues to blow minds I’ve got lot of stuff to talk about today, but we’ve kind of we thought that that might have been a short little discussion, but turns out we could waffle on about it and sort of go for it.
Aaron Horne
So look, what if we were to stop recording now, but wrap it up here and then maybe we could just roll straight into the next one next week? Yeah.
Patrick Berry
Good guys.
Aaron Horne
Awesome rock and roll. Perfect. Don’t start till next time. So, yeah, you have been listening to the property both recorded.
Patrick Berry
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John McGregor
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