| Episode: | E150 |
| Show Title: | Plans, Plants, and Automobiles |
| Cast: | Aaron Horne, Patrick Berry, & John McGregor |
| Show Length: | 28 minutes 42 seconds |
Join the team for the 150th episode of the Property Pod. See how long it takes them to get on track and start talking about something even remotely Property related!? But once they do, things heat up and they get into an in-depth discussion on the Hobart City Plans and how the capital of Tasmania could look in 20 years’ time.
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Aaron
Just the other day, man, applying with kind of the beat and the stable diffusion with some of the images. And he said, Ah, I wonder what happens if we type in Hobart waterfront typed it in and six images come up and you look at them all and instantly like, look, oh, that’s Hobart.
Patrick
But from the thumbnail size they looked friggin like Hobart. Oh no.
Aaron
But as you then went into it, you’re like, Hold on a sec. Like, Ah, yeah, there is a mountain kind of shape in the background, but that’s not our mountain. There’s like a Salamanca looking like it all looked 90%, right? Yeah, that was wrong. But speaking of identity, anyone that wasn’t a Hobart, you could look back. Oh yeah, that’s.
Patrick
Toby.
Aaron
Hobart. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Like, I guess considering that thinking of that, it’s like, oh, that’s a really good road map to be like, let’s not stray too far from here.
[intro music]
Aaron
All right, guys, welcome back to the Property Pod. Your weekly engagement into real estate here in the marketplace. I’m your host, Aaron Horne, and it gives me great pleasure to be heading off on episode 150. We’re halfway to a cake, boys.
John
Welcome to the property. Yep.
Aaron
Dave Carey for you with us. Back at episode 100, we got an ice cream cake. Oh no. I just realised Val how it’s closed.
Patrick
Yeah, I do this. We’ve got 50 episodes to get the Cheesecake Shop on board as a sponsor.
John
I can, I can do it for you guys.
Patrick
Every week we get one free cake.
John
That’s a solid year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it gets rolling.
Aaron
Well, Jon. Yes, it is a solid year. I wanted to talk to you firstly about your attendance record of late. Yeah, I’ve been looking back. I think we’ve had three unannounced absences. Yeah, we’d like to know more. Tell us. You don’t have a note from your mum. We’d like to know where you’ve been because.
John
We’ve missed you. I have completely missed Germany.
John
I think there’s been. It was a note from the doctors and then I was in Launceston and I.
Aaron
Do remember one. One was the principles.
Patrick
Of them with the principles.
John
Principles whereby.
Aaron
There there one Launceston one okay one.
Patrick
Lonnie went over.
John
All right. Yeah. So, and then I think there was a, I got a note from a doctors. Yeah.
John
Right.
Patrick
What I don’t understand though John is as the principal hosting the Principles Forum, why did you schedule it on recording day?
John
Well, Kevin Sheedy, I have to get you to go that way.
Aaron
I wouldn’t want to cross out sheets. I reckon he’s a pretty serious guy. If you said I can’t show up, I’ve got a podcast record with my mates, I just need to crack the whip.
John
I refuse to accept responsibility.
John
For my own lack of attendance at all, blaming everyone else. I can’t.
Aaron
Dialogue. Honestly, we have missed. It’s been it’s been laid. We’ve missed a few weeks. There was illnesses in my family, but we are back on track for our weekly podcast leading into Easter. So we will we’ll go onwards and upwards with the show and see how many weeks we can go in a row before we let you all down here.
John
We’ll put.
John
It down. I’d like you know the ticket for now.
John
Accidents at workplace a ticking over you go back to zero two because.
Aaron
I actually don’t mind that hit us with what’s been happening J-Mac what’s been happening in your world because everyone’s Mr.. We want to know what’s happening out there for you I’m.
John
Always share my life was more exciting but it was just it was uncanny the each Wednesday we had Robert Launceston for the royalty board meeting awards or something and.
John
Then I remember saying, well it’s.
John
There was the principles for it, which is really cool because I mean getting it, getting into Juice Sheedy was really good fun. I swear to God. He was a couple of points in that when he started it, he had.
Aaron
What time of the morning was it.
John
It was it was he he didn’t show to the afternoon, but I did do the opening address and then name thing. But man he had some energy. He just had that, you know, that little, little bit of an edge.
Aaron
And he’s got that storytelling vibe where you just know if you sitting in actually it does. It reminds me a bit of yourself in that he would start a story somewhere and you’re thinking, Where the hell is this thing going to go? And then at the end you wound up with like Jason motivated to kick some goals.
John
This, this, this.
John
Because right back you did some.
John
Goals.
Aaron
For you.
Patrick
Got it.
John
But I would say that was that was really good idea. I think one of the little happy happy moments is because I’ve got like a cool sports watch.
John
That goes, oh, cool hip sports flick. Yeah. Well, they were.
Aaron
Talking about sponsorship from The Cheesecake Shop, but.
John
Yeah, let me tell you about my cool hip sports watch. Well, let’s see. Cool sports.
John
So is that what they like? The Phoenix. Phoenix Sixes. So it’s like the whole thing’s just designed just for sports, which is great because I don’t do anything.
John
Yeah, I’m big on sports. Kind of like with the stories going.
John
But what I’ve been doing is since the plan when we did, I’ve been every day doing another couple hundred.
John
Couple, couple hundred kilometres.
Aaron
Okay? That’s why I hasn’t been here.
John
I’ve deployed a new class of ultra ultra marathon.
John
It’s called ultra, ultra ultra marathon.
Patrick
It’s a couple hundred metres is I think what you’re going.
John
Yeah. Yeah. So that’s been a slow, slow progression. But then I jumped on the scales yesterday and realised I’ve put on weight and this is just, this is just, you know, going in reverse at this point I’m doing more exercising.
Aaron
So maybe it’s muscle. Muscle weighs more than fat.
John
I hope so. I’d like you to believe that right now.
John
So I’m going to have to add more things to be able to track with my sports work.
Aaron
Well, just tracking here on the podcast, I reckon you could go back to episode ten. I wouldn’t recommend going back to episode ten, but we’re at 150. How many? 2.0 is 3.4 for us. How many body changes has John gone through across the journey couple?
Patrick
I actually remember he was going to the gym frequently there for about three weeks, so that’s like our episodes.
John
You get to a point where I just stop.
Aaron
Consistency is.
John
Okay. Yeah.
John
What time are discipline related to fitness is very consistent.
John
Well, I’m going to put.
Patrick
It out here, John. If you’re only running an extra 10 to 20 metres per day, 200, 200 per day, well, it’s going to take a while for you to get to a decent number that’s going to have an effect.
John
But do you.
Aaron
Run 100 extra further than 100 back? Like, is that the 200.
John
Now it’s just the cause of or just with the rugby. I’ve only whole. Yeah. So I was running around those back and forth and then doing sprints and stuff in between, but just make sure before the sessions ended they’ve just got a little bit further us.
Aaron
It’ll just keep building. I did hear an analogy yesterday that was pretty good. It was like something along the lines of if you think about the page in a phone book or phone book now kids, a phone book is something that used to search Rick and it was yellow, had lots of phone numbers in it, a phone book.
Aaron
The pages are so thin and one by its own, really weak. But if you think about the whole phone book.
John
I think that becomes a strong competition.
Patrick
But fortunately these days I don’t know if that’s true because the phone books.
John
Are outside.
Patrick
By the 1990.
Aaron
Where this story. Yeah. Where they story should have been.
John
Left to those bad boys, you know.
John
Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. All right.
Patrick
So it’s a new, new and improved John almost.
John
Yeah. Yeah, I like it. But measuring the distance, measuring the changes. So you’ve got me that idea of the, you know, the day since the last work accident, I’ll, I’ll sit up a little bit better.
Patrick
So we’re going to share how many kilometres we’re up to.
John
It’s three point and 3.2. Nice. Three point.
Patrick
Two snap. Well done J-Mac but.
John
I mean because you blitzed it, I was impressed with your fitness by smashing the five ks without really having to worry about it. Yeah, yeah.
Patrick
I could run. I just, you.
John
Know, pretty damn good base for this.
Patrick
I can run, but that’s about it. I don’t enjoy it. I just do it.
Aaron
Just get to the end. I did say this is completely off topic. None of this has been on topic for 150. We could probably get through 150 without any real estate talk if we really want to. First, this is John. I’m blaming you. This is what happens when you don’t show up for the shows. We’ve got all this pent up stuff that we want to talk about so we don’t talk about it.
Aaron
So we’re just going to drop it all. In one big episode.
John
Of the.
Aaron
Craziness.
John
The mistake is ask me questions, irrelevant stuff.
Aaron
I got to remember what I was going to say if we’re talking about Ronnie Oh Diplo the diplo bill.
John
So I had Diplo.
Aaron
The record producer, deejay. Hey, he ran the L.A. Marathon the other day and they said, How did you do that? So I just took heaps of shrooms and LSD beforehand and I went out and I went on a road trip and I was like, I never would consider.
John
That as a That’s a good tip.
Aaron
All you want to do is beat Oprah’s time. And he apparently did that on a on a real trip.
John
So it’s funny.
John
I don’t know that his kids would not know. They would have been physical but spiritual.
John
Yeah. What a journey. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I saw one where there.
John
Was a duck that was actually participating in a walkathon, and it went all the way and finished and they ended up giving it a medal.
Aaron
I like that. It was terrific. I do like.
John
That. Could have been a goose either way.
John
I think.
Patrick
This episode.
Aaron
Yeah, this is a golden goose. Robin, who won 50 episodes of absolute rubbish. Do you want to try and talk about what I put that shownotes. Let’s see how we go. Yeah, I did think I just saw just just this week the Hobart City Council put out plans for a release of Drive for the Future, the future of what our city could look like, of what Hobart could be in the next 20 years.
Aaron
It looks pretty cool. I thought we could talk about it.
Patrick
I really like it. I love that it’s been broken into what they describe as precincts.
Aaron
Yeah. Do you feel in New York? Yeah.
John
I was.
Aaron
Like.
John
Man.
Patrick
This feels like we’re we’re shifting.
John
Gears. Yeah, we’re going downtown. Yeah.
Aaron
So here’s with the precinct. What do we.
Patrick
Go? We’ve got the central, the civic and cultural. Then we have the innovation precinct, the Trinity Hill and the rivulet. Now the rivulet. Straight away, all I could think of was like an underground.
John
Oh, yeah, that’s right.
Patrick
You know, that’s.
Aaron
Where the Ninja Turtles would.
John
Live. You know, the alleyways underground.
Aaron
Now, I initially thought the same thing I looked at, and I was just like, either broken into these, like, five little areas and said, Oh, it’s like the five boroughs of New York. Also where the next New York. Look out, baby, look, we got this. But yeah, so I guess the aim is to strike a balance between managing the future growth of the city, but maintaining the character and charm.
Aaron
So you often hear these documents will come out and side like we don’t want to completely turn it into this urban megalopolis city. Yeah, we want to keep Hobart as it is, but we just need to future proof it and make it a place that will work 20 years from now. So I think one of the key factors that that is discussed in the document is that I think it’s something like 47,000 population increase of 47,000 people across like the next 20 years just for the city of Hobart alone.
Aaron
Yeah. So where do you house those people? Where do you put them? How do you make the city work for that many people? Having people being able to transit through and around the areas. So a lot of thought has gone into that. And then I know another key factor that is always a big player when it comes to Hobart and Hobart oceans is the height of buildings.
Aaron
You can not mess with the height of the buildings, but a bit of consideration has been put in to that as well. So I thought we could talk to it, talk around it, say what we thought, and if not, we’ll just go back to talking rubbish as we were and people can say 151 an episode.
John
Yeah, I and we can have.
John
Oh well I suppose that I, this makes me sound cooler than I am but in.
Patrick
Most things do.
John
In, in Budapest. What was, what was fascinating about you is when you got up on top of the hill, they had a building restriction limit of five storeys which couldn’t exceed a specific I think it was the cathedral in the centre part of the city. So when you look back like it was just surreal, like all of them were exactly five storeys, it just went across a sea of old buildings.
John
Yeah. Which, which is really cool looking at it now. But obviously it was a huge hindrance in terms of the city because it can’t exceed a certain capacity. But one thing about it is you can absolutely look at that and you know, see that go, wow, that’s Budapest. I think one of the great things about Hobart, the for us where we absolutely do need to rethink it is it still has a very, very unique.
John
This is a Hobart City feel. Yeah. Whereas a sense you know in a lot of other just highly metropolitan cities you could just you could locate yourself in a bunch of them across the world and you wouldn’t really sit there and go I’m in a specific city. So I guess in that sense where they’re trying to ensure that the historic element and the building limitations are there, it still has that unique identity that’s aesthetic.
Aaron
Speaking of identity, it’s like a really funny one. It’s not exactly talking to this document, but just the other day, applying with kind of the chat debate and the stable diffusion with some of the images. And he said, Ah, I wonder what happens if we type in Hobart. Waterfront typed it in and six images come up and you look at them all and instantly like Look, oh that’s Hobart.
Patrick
But from the thumbnail size they looked friggin like Hobart. Oh no.
Aaron
But as you then went into it you’re like, hold on a sec. Like Ah yeah, there is a mountain kind of shape in the background, but that’s not our mountain. Ah, there’s like a Salamanca looking like it all looked 90%, right? Yeah, that was wrong. But speaking of identity, anyone that wasn’t a Hobart you could look at back.
Aaron
Oh yeah that’s, that’s Hobart. Hobart.
John
Yeah.
Aaron
Yeah. So yeah. Like I guess considering that, thinking of that, it’s like, oh, that’s a really good road map to be like, let’s not stray too far from here. Just even the colours and everything that was used. Obviously what it’s doing is taking a bunch of images of Hobart and smashing them together and then putting an output that is very close to that.
Aaron
Yeah, yeah. It was super cool just to say be like, Oh yeah, that’s like our city. You could almost turn it down into a five colours and you’d be like, Oh, that is the colours of Hobart. Like, Cool, yeah. Yeah, it was sweet, but yeah. Speaking of like the, the height of the buildings, one of the crazy things that I saw in the document is by basically if you look at the way the the high rises are now that the plans on like to have extra sections where there’ll be these brand new high rises, it’ll kind of maintain the the views and make sure that people in all the areas where they are able to
Aaron
still have the views they have with the central.
Patrick
Interesting the document outlines that for the central precinct that they are proposing buildings of up to 60 metres in height, so 15 to 18 storeys and then lower heights in the Trinity Hill and Rivulet precinct of anywhere between 9.5 metres in height. So it looks like they’re trying to figure out an area where we will allow for. Yeah.
Patrick
Larger buildings to accommodate more people, but then we’ll also have areas that keep that charm and that older sort of feel. So I think it could be a nice balance.
Aaron
Yeah. So the, the heights of the look like it’s about 60 metres for the biggest ones which is about an 18 storey building and then the lower heights in the Trinity Hills and Regal that is like nine metres which I think.
Patrick
Is 15 to 18 storeys according to the document.
Aaron
Isn’t that isn’t that the highest the big ones would go. Isn’t 60 million. Sorry. So that would only be like a five storey building.
Patrick
Yeah. So it’s interesting to see that they have thought about that. Yeah. And trying to allow the city to grow and to expand but without losing its so-called character that it will fall in love with.
Aaron
Yeah. And I think in the document it said careful consideration was made because past developments have gone for these big tall superstar towers. And it’s just.
John
They’re just going to do that.
Aaron
No, no chance.
John
Yeah. Yeah, we’ll see. I mean, they’re they’re going to do talking about transport because I suppose the biggest thing about opening up to available car parking or, you know, cycling or better walking facilities, etc., is this and I find this interesting about, you know, areas of activation where like obviously they have all these areas are supposed to have a opening to a specific purpose, I guess, in defining how they’re going to be utilised and how the planning will interact with each other.
John
But when you say because I don’t I’ve never been to New York, so when when you talk about the boroughs, like the different boroughs, is that because all of them are a mix of everything or they all have a specific purpose?
Patrick
Well, it’s just like the financial district is what they describe as downtown. There’s midtown, there’s uptown.
John
Gotcha.
John
I have to.
Aaron
Say, this is funny because we were talking about the Beastie Boys before the show. I always think of the Beastie Boys songs. That’s Brooklyn, Bronx, the Queens, Manhattan, from the battery to the subway.
John
No good at this guy.
Aaron
So there’s the five. Yeah. Basically, they’re all split into, like, Harlem and all the area where certain gender.
John
Well, I think if I was.
Patrick
I’m only guessing, but I’m assuming the boroughs came about because New York is such an immigrant city when it was built. Yeah, little I guess towns inside town sort of built up over time. So, you know, you’ve got districts where a lot of certain types of immigrants sort of came together and built an area up. And then that has now sort of resulted in different styles of architecture and different styles of buildings sort of forming in little clusters.
John
Yeah. Gotcha.
Patrick
Sort of how you describe.
Aaron
Yeah, that’s pretty good. I’ve just done a Google search and I the Beastie Boys were correct and I taught me well. I got that right. But yeah, there’s lots of different little neighbourhoods and districts, but yeah, they’re the five key ones and it looks like it’s the way everybody kind of entered the city and, and set up shop.
Aaron
Yeah. Have you ever seen Gangs of New York? Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you’d be all about that.
John
Okay, well, there was because it was part of the because you Can Walk has gone through a similar process with this you know.
Aaron
That’s yeah yeah. And that’s why when I was looking at this and I thought this would be so interesting to have it next to our Glenorchy plan because that’s obviously right in our backyard. Yeah, but what’s happening in central Hobart is kind of Yeah. Talks to the rest of our big city.
John
Absolutely. And one of the architects when I can’t remember what the question was raised, it was me and one of the other people. But um, you know.
Aaron
Climate knows, you know, you said it’s okay, I’m.
John
Going to, I’m worried that it’s going to be bad. QUESTION So.
John
Yeah, that.
John
Where the thing was ensuring that there’s no black no no dark zones so there’s no like when as they redeveloped this site, they didn’t want areas that just go dark for extended periods of time. So you might have like there’s a, there’s a street that’s, you know, activated and with I mean, activated, like people constantly coming and going on purpose.
John
And then all of a sudden you’ve got three quarters of the building behind completely in the dark because it doesn’t get utilised whatsoever. Yeah. Yeah. So and with that then they wanted to make sure that it tries to all integrate into each other quite well. So I suppose with looking at these different purposes for Hobart, you know if I think if I walk through the, you know, in my head now if you walk through at the moment like nothing really makes sense, it’s sort of all just come together almost accidentally.
John
You’ve got an old pub over here and then there’s a clothing shop and a random dry cleaners and a cafe, and then you’ve got to go like it’s not really any. Yeah, yeah.
Aaron
Rhyme or reason. Yeah.
John
Yeah. And I wonder then if that like the but trying to define these in their future planning and approvals network the ensuring that look if you want to do this we want to encourage you to go here.
Aaron
Yeah, yeah for sure.
John
That’s what the if that’s what one of the defining purpose of having those different zones. Um.
Aaron
You know, one thing I didn’t even look at while I was looking at the whole thing, football stadium, is that even on there like that was obviously been a huge.
Patrick
I suppose that’s not the zone they’re talking about.
Aaron
Yeah, actually they write it.
John
Right on the outside. It brought out a.
Aaron
Device inside.
Patrick
To talk about that because they’ve identified that as no of the city.
Aaron
I went through the whole thing. Is that 11:00 whether that was.
Patrick
In the beyond the planned area zone is.
Aaron
What it had. It sounds like the Lion King out in the whatever the light touches.
John
You can absolutely understand why that didn’t include that. There’s just there’s no way nothing of this would have happened if all of a sudden they included Macquarie Point in that section.
Aaron
I guess. I guess one of the things I just wanted to touch on was kind of housing and the way it would work. So I want to try and go where this medium density or building these apartments that can house a bunch of people remove homelessness. I was quite shocked. I was in the city just the other day for the first time in a long time and yeah, the amount of people that were living rough and kind of on the streets, I was like, Holy moly, this is.
Aaron
Yeah, quite dire. Yeah, it’s definitely changing. And we’re about to get into winter where things will get really, really tricky for those people sort of thing. But then the other one was key, key workers accommodation for those. So you think about the locked businesses. Exactly, all the stuff that kind of happened that we kind of took advantage of pre-COVID.
Aaron
And now that it’s kind of like, holy moly, we need places for those people to, to stay in. Yeah. And work and.
Patrick
And it looks like they’ve identified two of their zones, which is the rivulet zone in the Trinity Hills Zone is being encouraged to build high quality medium density housing. So you know, they’re on what they class is the outskirts of the city plan. But you know the grand scheme of things, it literally right in.
Aaron
Well yeah and it’s rather than having to go out to the suburbs and and then travel in and and spend your time and work out transport and stuff if you can have a scooter and distance for a walking distance to your accommodation, if you’re a nurse or a doctor or someone that is an essential worker. Yeah. Power to you if you can make that work.
Patrick
Oh no. It’s a it’s, you can say there’s been a lot of thought put into it.
Aaron
A lot. Yeah. Actually had a lot of fun going through it and I was like, I don’t know if I’ll be able to have a full episode on it. And we I.
Patrick
Don’t think we clever enough to really.
Aaron
Know, but it’s, it’s interesting just to think like this is what our city could be 20 years from now, 20 years ago, would the planners have thought, oh, this is what Hobart City will look like?
Patrick
Well, that’s like I’m looking here at the back when we’re talking about heights and the medium density areas which are what they zoned as Trinity Hill and the Rivulet Zone. They’re proposing three and four and some five storey properties in those areas for accommodation. So five storey buildings is huge for accommodation to build up sort of.
John
Perhaps it’s 100%.
Patrick
And then moving all the way into the city centre which like Aaron said, 15 to 18 storeys. But they’ve got a nice blend in between of zones which could fall into a six and eight storey. So it sort of is looking like that peak in the middle and yeah, yeah, it’s a sort of nice even level.
Aaron
Yes, that’s, I was trying to describe before, it’s like yeah, I could kind of all sit in the basin of having that the tall ones in the middle and it doesn’t extrude out too far and then have all these like a little mini which is.
Patrick
Great because if you remember, not long ago there was a Chinese development company trying to do a hotel down on the Hobart waterfront and I think they were trying to do like a 20 storey building that was a monster.
John
Yeah.
Patrick
But that wouldn’t fall within this planning scheme because then that’s just going to be a high rise in the middle of nowhere by itself. Yeah. I mean, now that would feel better if it was in the centre of the city in amongst others and not feel out of place or ruining the aspect of, of what Hobart is.
John
Yeah. Yeah.
Patrick
So yeah. So the thoughts around how they’re laying it out, it’s quite interesting.
Aaron
Yeah. And if you’re interested in and you want to have a look at it, a draught plan is available on the City of Hobart website. It’s open for comment until the 30th of April this year. So 2023, you’re invited to provide feedback online via the City of Hobart, your say website or in person at pop up hubs. So tomorrow, no, that one’s no good because that’s the 23rd of I’m sorry, it’s just looking a site that will be well gone will be on the Easter holidays by then.
Aaron
So don’t worry about that. But on the 23rd of April, if you’re at the farm gate market, there’ll be a stall there that you can go and have a have a yarn about. There’ll be people talking to it and there’s a live streamed panel later in the month, Tuesday, the 18th of April 530 to 730 on the future of Hobart, shaping the city online talks.
Aaron
So if you have enjoyed listening to this, you’ll enjoy listening to that.
Patrick
I reckon I’d be go to the farm gate market for my information.
Aaron
I reckon you would buy.
Patrick
Coffee and some breakfast on that and really enjoy the morning. The market is a great spot. It is.
John
Though. It is. It’s very likely it’s better.
Patrick
In winter than it is in summer.
Aaron
I agree. Now I’ve.
Patrick
Been and if you go there at 8 a.m. and it’s like two degrees in your run up and you get your coffee in the steam market, you cannot beat a Sunday morning that starts like that.
Aaron
Doesn’t doesn’t park. I have like a little favourite.
Patrick
Cheese steak target. He’s not there every week though. So when he doesn’t turn up, there’s always the trouble that always takes place. But I get around the farm gate market guys because that is brilliant.
Aaron
Awesome to look up. I don’t have time to talk about it, but I did see an article while I was researching. Yeah, I can do what I want. Yeah.
John
That’s 150 wrapped up. But let’s keep going now.
Aaron
I just want to put it out there. Well, all I was researching all this, I was on the city of I about website and I saw this really cool plant giveaway idea. So you know how they kind of change the ruling on nature strips recently where the council in the City of Hobart won’t be maintaining them anymore? So that comes on to the owners or the the tenants to be looking after that.
Aaron
They’re giving away plants so that you can pretty up your pretty up your nature strip or pretty up your yard. So who’s giving it away? The City of Hobart. The council site. Yeah. There’ll be at least a thousand plants given away, ranging from native Tasmanian Australian plants up to your lavender and rosemary. So you can be kind of making a little veggie patch if you want to, so you can sort it out.
Aaron
You can get up to 20 plants of your choice. It is a first in best dressed kind of scenario set to register online. So will be directing people to the Hobart City website again. I love the idea of free plants love and getting to my garden. I just thought, I thought this is cool.
John
I’m telling people, well.
John
I saw an idea once where we’ve got those an image of the biodiversity in just a nothing but grass, you know, like in terms of insects, you add like flies and something else. Then, you know, this.
John
Is a good story already.
John
But then then it went through like if you had a vegetable gardens and all these like the hollows, they had bees and everything, like a huge biodiverse area. Yeah. And if we the cool idea was if everyone grew vegetables in their front yard, you know, like, like imagine.
Aaron
All the, you know, just trip, everyone was everyone.
John
Else. Everything was grown veggies like, yeah, the food would be like inexhaustible. If everyone knew how to do it.
Aaron
There’d be an abundance of Yeah, yeah. Of stuff out there.
John
It’s kind of cool that if rather than just the, you know, the nature strip being just a.
Aaron
Pretty blue grass, it just.
John
Gets mowed and dry. Yeah, it ends up being a really cool, biodiverse little section all around the place.
Patrick
I once saw a story about vegetables to John when I was in New York. There’s all these high rise gardens. Yeah, roofs. And it’s like urban farms. They call.
John
Them. Oh, that’s cool.
Aaron
I love that stuff. I think that stuff’s super cool when you kind of can say, Yeah, the hanging gardens off the side of things and we’re growing our produce. And yeah, I know there’s a bunch of stuff.
Patrick
That everyone lives in. There’s a farm on top that a community garden where everyone can go and grow vegetables and food.
John
Love that. Yeah, because I mean, there’s a couple already up at spring for every one, but there aren’t too many.
Aaron
Yeah, no, they’re great ideas so. Yeah.
John
Like get a plant. Get a plant model.
Patrick
Registered episode is get a plate.
Aaron
Register for it. It’s yeah it’s something cool I saw, I enjoyed it so yeah yeah yeah. Hit up the City of Hobart website Hobart City dot com to let you save some stuff on there.
John
All that.
John
Plants. Yeah plants. Plants and.
John
Plants. Plants and and automobiles.
Aaron
The name of the episode.
John
All right, 150.
Aaron
We did it. It’s so good to have you back, John.
John
Face.
Aaron
Yeah, we will be back next week and we’ll try and stay on topic as well as we can, right? No promises. Thanks, guys. All right, say bye.
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