E154 – Keeping on Top of Property Maintenance

Episode:E154
Show Title:Keeping on Top of Property Maintenance
Cast:Aaron Horne, Patrick Berry, & John McGregor
Show Length:26 minutes 10 seconds

The team is back together and jumps straight into discussing Pat’s recent trip to the Philippines to train with some of the offshore 4one4 team and rendezvous with some fellow members of the Leading Real Estate Agents of the World (LeadingRE).

Big News for local sports lovers as the Future of an AFL Footy Team in Tasmania was announced this past week; as well as Plans and Approvals for a Star Wars-themed house here in Australia and also on the radar as topics for discussion.

4one4 Property Co | Keeping on Top of Property Maintenance

EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Aaron Horne
The QR code that were basically under the sink of every rental property managed by 4one4. And if you have a maintenance issue or request.

Patrick Berry
You can use it. We have Tapi via your phone and that goes straight into our system.

[intro]

Aaron Horne
All right, guys, welcome back to the Property Pod, your weekly engagement into real estate here in the Hobart marketplace. I’m Aaron Horne and my fingers are away from the buttons. Tron’s up new today. I’m trying something actually that’s pretty close to what we’re talking about. Racing with air tools, helping out, jobs out. So I can just throw to these boys without having to think about it.

Aaron Horne
Patrick Berry, John McGregor, welcome back to the podcast.

Patrick Berry
Oh boy, am I excited to be here.

Aaron Horne
I can tell, mate. I can tell. It’s good to have you back. We missed you last week, although we didn’t even get to record last week. We missed the show all together. And that’s basically because you’re the backbone, my friend.

Patrick Berry
Well, I’ll take it.

Aaron Horne
You’ll take it. Tell us where you’ve been and what you’ve been doing and what’s been happening out there in the world of Patrick Berry.

Patrick Berry
I’ve been living it up in the Philippines for the last ten days, so. [Aaron: Oh la la.] Yeah, it’s hot weather in 40 degree days, sweating bullets. But just over there doing some work with our offshore team.

Aaron Horne
Yeah. So I pray, pray jumping. I’m talking about the coffees over there and your Starbucks orders and what that turned into. But yeah, explain kind of the offshore team and what you went over to do.

Patrick Berry
And so we have four members that work for us, that full, one full. But they work out of the Philippines. Yep, they do a lot of our admin stuff. So two in now the marketing team which you work directly with.

Aaron Horne
Nino and Queen. Yep, superstars.

Patrick Berry
And then we have Darryl and Renz working in our property management department doing a lot of their maintenance and admin work.

Aaron Horne
Are we allowed to drop the info on kind of the new role that Renz is taking over? So can you tell us about kind of the main reason Abbey was heading over for?

Patrick Berry
So the main reason we went over was that about three weeks ago we launched our own maintenance company for one for maintenance. So we have a maintenance team here on the ground in Hobart now and all of the bookings, admin, accounting and everything will be run out of our offshore team with Renz.

Aaron Horne
And so the purpose of creating the maintenance team is to.

Patrick Berry
Really just I guess streamline our property management department and try to help them when we have like handyman jobs, which can be anything from like fixing a door that’s not quite closing. Changing a toilet seat, rig routine shall be like they’re quite easy task, but we need somebody to do them.

Aaron Horne
Yeah.

Patrick Berry
So it’s like a jack of all trades instead of like a plumber who specialises in plumbing and electrician. I guess a handyman is best described as somebody that can do a bit of everything. Yeah, but.

John McGregor
And that’s 80% of the maintenance too. Like it’s just but then the second switches across to specialised which requires that next level of environmental protection.

Patrick Berry
Yeah. That’s what we to.

John McGregor
Engage because I know even because otherwise even the handyman generally speaking the hardest consistent maintenance person to to.

Aaron Horne
Engage in because it’s like I’ve got to be able to work or get a enough crust for doing this quite easy task. God’s going to cost me this much to come out and do the job and to quote it and work it all out.

Patrick Berry
So there’s a couple of pain points we’ve discovered over the last couple of years. A when we’re working with handymen, you know, they do work for all the agencies in Hobart. Yeah. And just exclusively to us. So that means it can be hard to get them to attend jobs that we need them to work on know because you know, they’re trying to help the other agencies in Hobart as well because they want to keep their hands in all the pots.

Patrick Berry
The second issue we came across as well as handymen tend to work for themselves, so they’re self-employed. But then that also means that, you know, buying materials to fix jobs and things like that can put a lot of strain on them from a capital perspective. So having enough money to be able to go buy all the supplies from Bunnings to fix the job because we can’t pay them until.

Aaron Horne
The job’s done.

Patrick Berry
And sometimes we’ve property management as well, we can’t pay them until the bond is released, which, if it’s a bond claim, can take anywhere from 4 to 8 weeks. You know what, if there’s a dispute and so some handymen are required and we make this very clear to them before they do a job for us, that they could be required to pay anywhere from 2 to 8 weeks.

Aaron Horne
To get their payment through.

Patrick Berry
You know, that has we’ve found over the years caused a lot of issues with some of the handymen we’re working with. They get to a point where they can’t hold any more material costs on labour costs.

Aaron Horne
Yeah. So they’re kind of like, I’m not as keen to take on that job.

Patrick Berry
Yeah. So we start looking at it and we were really struggling over the last 12 months to get people to properties to do the work. And so I think maintenance jobs are staying open for a lot longer, which is getting owners upset or stressed because the work wasn’t being fixed. And so yeah, we made the decision to try to bring it all in-house.

Patrick Berry
Yeah. Have a full time staff member on payroll for us. It means that we can actually sell the right at a cheaper rate than what we were getting quoted from outside suppliers. Because our main goal is to break even, not to make a profit. We go.

Aaron Horne
Well, essentially, yeah.

Patrick Berry
It’s up till service is what we. Yes, yeah. And then obviously being our own in-house department, we don’t have we’ve got the capital to hold the materials we can, we can pay for that and reimburse later when that.

Aaron Horne
Yeah, yeah. I can get the job done.

Patrick Berry
Yeah. So the decision was made, we now have a handyman and we had two gardeners that form part of 4one4 Maintenance.

Aaron Horne
What a team! Started staff from the bottom. Now, they’re here. Triple treble.

Patrick Berry
Yeah. So now the goal was to head to the Philippines to teach our admin team. How do we get it to…

Aaron Horne
How to implement the actual?

Patrick Berry
Because the last thing we noticed is handyman. They love going out to do the job, but they really struggle with the idea of having to book it in with the tenants or invoices after the job is done.

Aaron Horne
Oh yeah. You’re a handyman. Your handy with the tools, not with the pen.

Patrick Berry
So the bookwork and the booking seems to be the pot was always a let down as well. So that’s why we’ve got our offshore team handling all of that. So our maintenance person here on the ground, all he does is open up his app on his phone of the morning and says he’s going to wants me straight at 8:30 a.m..

Aaron Horne
So this is another call that I wanted to bring up. So this is running through is it the topic system?

Patrick Berry
So yeah, we use here which is app. So this is where the probably the most confusing part that we’ve had in this whole process. Yeah. Is that now we always have to with two hats we have our property management hat and then for a range especially. He then also has to take that all at a certain point and put on his maintenance hat.

Patrick Berry
Okay, because we’re using two different platforms and then we’re responding to clients in two different.

Aaron Horne
Okay, so trying to cross.

Patrick Berry
Yeah.

Aaron Horne
So you’ve got to streamline Ghostbusters.

Patrick Berry
Tapi is the software that we use for property management and we’ve actually been rolling out to all our properties now, so most of our tenants have a barcode now stuck under their sink.

Aaron Horne
Yes. So this is what I wanted to get to. So there’s a QR code that would basically under the sink of every rental property managed by 4one4. And if you have a maintenance issue or request.

Patrick Berry
You can log it with Tapi via your phone and that goes straight into our system. Our girls can then allocate: is it plumbing is, electrical is or whatever is it handyman? And then that goes. If it’s handyman, it goes off to Renz. So he works in our offshore team, who will then book that job in with the tenant on behalf of our maintenance team here in Hobart?

Patrick Berry
Yep. So yeah, we, it’s just, it’s a bit of a roundabout circle and it’s taken a bit of time to nut that out. Yeah. That’s one of the reasons why we couldn’t do it remotely. We had to sit side by side and use whiteboards to show to Renz how it maps out.

Aaron Horne
Yep. Problem problems shoot through those problems that way.

Patrick Berry
At what point are you responding to a client is 4one4 maintenance versus responding to a client is 4one4 rentals because they are separate businesses under the same umbrella.

Aaron Horne
Yeah, for sure.

Patrick Berry
So but yeah it was a really good exercise and we, we achieved what we needed to achieve.

Aaron Horne
I heard that Abbey was absolutely and Renz was absolutely exhausted at the end of the day. Like you got to the end of the day, you’re like, Oh, we’re in paradise.

Patrick Berry
So I was actually quite confident that Queen who works with us, might be interested in moving across to run the maintenance department. Yep. Three days, you know, was like, “So Queen, how would you feel about potentially?” and like it was a look of horror. I’ve just seen what these have been through for the last three days. There is no way I’m touching my chair or I’m happy doing what I’m doing and just leave me out of it.

Aaron Horne
Well, don’t mess with Queen. She’s mine. And we’re we’re in a good spot. We’ve been on heaps of that digital furniture of late, and she’s killing it. She’s a wicked colour digital stylist.

Patrick Berry
Did you stop? Yeah. I think that for me it’s.

Aaron Horne
Pretty well for a yeah.

Patrick Berry
Yes, I would say it’s a good it was a good time to be over there. And then just towards the end we were lucky enough we had one spare day. We were able to spend it with the team and go do a bit of a bonding exercise. And yeah, yeah, it’s nice to hang.

Aaron Horne
Out and a bit of bonding while you’re there as well. You caught up with some other members of the Leading Real Estate of the World.

Patrick Berry
Yes, we did that.

Aaron Horne
What’s the code again? Sorry, I.

Patrick Berry
Don’t know what agencies of the world you go. We got a big plaque on the wall out front because we are one of the only members in Australia. I think, John, is it three? There’s not many more of us instead.

John McGregor
Of Tasmania as well.

Patrick Berry
Yeah. So I got made up of Jules. Who was she’s the South East Asia director or branch or something. Yeah, Big John title.

Aaron Horne
And anyhow, you got to meet up with somebody in the network and catch up with them. I had a blast.

Patrick Berry
Yeah. It’s good fun. Good to trade ideas talk about because they were a little bit blown away that we had a team in the Philippines that was just getting their head around it. They knew the offshore world existed in the Philippines, but they hadn’t actually thought about how people might use it in the real estate space and.

Aaron Horne
The reach of, you know, you’re a small island in Tasmania.

Patrick Berry
Yeah.

Aaron Horne
But if I were to go over there doing that, yeah, yeah.

Patrick Berry
It’s always good to chat to them about that and how our team function. We listen, how we communicate with each other. And you know, it was a.

Aaron Horne
I heard I enjoyed a drink just as much as you.

Patrick Berry
Do. Oh, I now know what Chris McGregor joined because I know Chris loves a drink and that’s got to be the reason why these people, the.

John McGregor
Networking is strong and.

Patrick Berry
A little too sound to my liking. To be honest, the one night I went out with them, I think I stopped counting about 13 or 14.

Aaron Horne
As well as.

Patrick Berry
This, and I’m not sure what we were talking about towards the end, but I’m sure it was goals I would.

Aaron Horne
Have anyway. Real estate gold would definitely, definitely knock that on the head.

John McGregor
In its thing. I think Dad was excited that you’ve got to experience the first taste of what that’s like because then even with CMC, the Leading Real Estate is all across the world and everyone that we’ve ever met is very gracious with their time there. You know, the houses and everything. When you go visit them.

Patrick Berry
I have to admit, we made up. We have one of the agents who works in Manilla, which is where we were heading for the weekend because we were there for the first week and we had two days in Manilla. Then we’re heading back to work for the next part. Yeah. So and he was like, Oh, you’ll never get transport in Manilla on the weekend.

Patrick Berry
It’s too hectic. The basketball World Cup draw was on as well, so there’s lots of people in town, so I just hard drive a whole weekend for you. I’ll just get a job for you. And why so good? Don’t stress. We got this. We’re under control. No, no, no. You don’t drive. I’ll get my driver to come pick you up and take you around.

Patrick Berry
Let that level of mujer anything for you was strong.

John McGregor
It’s just that just like he visiting us, we’re grateful for it. Let us help. Let us work. You into our country.

Aaron Horne
Yeah, well, I’d like to set stage.

Patrick Berry
I think that had too many beers because the phone call never came.

Aaron Horne
Through from the.

Patrick Berry
South. But I was like, now I’m pretty good to get myself around the city.

John McGregor
Oh, look, it’s surreal. And we’re know I haven’t been out of it personally, but I saw you in Australia. I have obviously. But internationally, you know. Well, no, that’s that’s not true. So we even when I went to Luxembourg, we spent time with one of the families and they put me up for four days. Now, some of these players, it’s got some serious money.

John McGregor
So this house had like was four storeys that had an elevator in it. It was next level kind of thing. And that was really nice because I’d been staying in nothing but hostels. Yeah, it’s going into like one of the nicest here in Luxembourg.

Patrick Berry
I got that feeling as well that there are some very well-off real estate. Oh yeah. That’s like the guy I met. You had his own driver. I think he had two nannies, like, yeah. For his kids. So, yeah, he was living life pretty well in the Philippines.

John McGregor
Yeah, exactly. You know what other real estate agents and how they operate their businesses internationally as well as kind of cool. Hmm.

Patrick Berry
No, it was yeah. Very interesting because obviously in the Philippines he focuses more on commercial and commercial is the big player in that the is like residential real estate. It’s not really a thing. It sort of just gets handed down through generations of actually.

Aaron Horne
Yeah.

Patrick Berry
So there is resident residential sales, but from what I could gather, it’s not as strong as what it like. It is here in Australia where we focus more on residential than we do on commercial. That makes.

John McGregor
Sense.

Patrick Berry
So yeah, he was more in that commercial space and renting and and selling commercial properties. Yeah. Okay. No, it was, it was really good and interesting. And that was the other thing I noticed as well when I was there is most of the stuff that is selling is being sold by the developer, not by real estate agencies. So they’ve got full size pop up shop selling.

John McGregor
Big lie, medium sized.

Patrick Berry
Big condominium complexes. Yeah. So they’re selling little mini villages is what they’re currently building like Highrise Village. Yeah, for sure. What Queen used to do before she worked for.

Aaron Horne
Us, I believe that was yeah. Some of the stuff that we looked into earlier.

Patrick Berry
So yeah, real estate slightly different to their to how we said here it’s not as transactional from a, from a residential space as what it is. Yeah.

John McGregor
Yeah. I think is there a there’s also an extra layer of protection on who can and cannot buy land in the Philippines as well. So as internationals, I think a little bit easier for us to buy, you know, a unit in the condo or something.

Aaron Horne
Rather than purchasing.

John McGregor
Land. But again, I’m still strong, still confirm there’s like another link through there as well. So it’s just another layer of complexity. But I do love the way in those developments how they build up those 3D models because we were at the airport, I think, coming through, and I just stopped and chatted to a lady who was selling.

John McGregor
It, took the book with me. I was just there for the experience.

Aaron Horne
Yeah, yeah.

John McGregor
But then of course they had the full map. And so you’re walking over the development you like and that’s going to be your unit right there. You know, the other.

Patrick Berry
One I went into, which was in a mall of Asia, which whole biggest shopping centre I’ve ever been to in my life.

Aaron Horne
To get lost.

Patrick Berry
Oh yeah. All I wanted to do there was fine. This stupid Nikes door, you know, I had about an hour and a beam past this, so I knew that I was driving as mental. But we found this development project complex and soon as they the Westerner walks past, they are quick to jump out of the store and chase after you.

Patrick Berry
But the model was there, but behind it was a full sized kitchen of the exact kitchen and the food like they’d literally built the inside of the cellar.

Aaron Horne
You’ve got the tiles that sit in the other room over here. So these are the tiles that maybe could go on.

Patrick Berry
Your development inside? Yeah, well, that’s inside the shopping centre so you could literally walk through the apartments.

Aaron Horne
I read, say when John was telling his story, I was just picturing the Zoolander where he’s got this little model and he says, What is this difference? But you’re saying that they’ve taken.

Patrick Berry
This.

Aaron Horne
Yet Pat said, they have made it three times as big and you can walk.

Patrick Berry
In it. But John’s right, they they don’t like to take you over to the model and be like with the blue laser point, be like this is where like we could tell you this one.

John McGregor
Yeah, it’s pretty crazy. I know. Like, it’s fine that there’s still something that makes me nervous about buying of a model, you know?

Aaron Horne
I don’t.

John McGregor
Know. It’s.

Aaron Horne
It’s here. Bricks and mortar, man.

John McGregor
There’s no reason for it. It’s in a logical for you.

Patrick Berry
Two weeks later in the mail, that comes John’s little model. Yeah.

Aaron Horne
It’s like, what? When you buy from Wish and you think you’re getting a big share, but it’s just this tiny little thing, you know? Well, speaking of models and plants and stuff, one thing I wanted to throw in today was did you see this Star Wars model plans for the Star Wars house in Victoria?

John McGregor
Oh, not yet. It was it. Application for one is it. Yeah.

Aaron Horne
And they’ve been approved Pat offering them up and I’ll try and put them in the video but essentially it’s like a star destroyer. Yeah. And so the land was purchased and it’s like desert planes and made to look like a spice planet. And that’s why I liked the idea of it. But they’ve made full plans for what looks like a star cruiser from Star Wars.

Aaron Horne
It’s not made. It was made to.

John McGregor
Is that what that photo was? I didn’t look into it more. Yeah. Now that makes perfect sense.

Aaron Horne
So, yeah, the idea for this is that the guys got the plans drawn up. They approved, they’re ready to go on this land. The sale was going live on the 4th of May, so may the force be with you. So strike while the iron is hot. So I.

John McGregor
Think so. You’d buy that? The project. Star Wars? Yes.

Aaron Horne
Yeah. So it seems so strange that it’s kind of a like it’s a really niche. Niche market where it’s like, I’ve got plans to build a Star Wars house. I’m not going to do it. Do you want.

Patrick Berry
To do you want to do it?

Aaron Horne
Yeah, because you can go.

Patrick Berry
Can you? I really thought I could sell my wife for it.

John McGregor
Could you imagine the budget on that. Every intense.

Aaron Horne
So yeah, it just seems so unique. And then to be like, this is your idea. I was like, are they taking the mickey? But as the further you look into it, yeah, the guy’s gone, got approval, those big booster things at the back, they’re like water, like tanks to like, maintain the water. Yeah. Yeah. So are you making the most unique Airbnb or a fan film tonight?

Aaron Horne
Interesting.

John McGregor
This is why you know, it would be amazing just to have so much money. You could just. Let’s just do that. Yeah, let’s. Let’s see where this goes. You know, that’s why I don’t like.

Aaron Horne
Looking into plans like it was still wouldn’t be cheap to get a draughtsman or someone to.

John McGregor
And to pick it out so that it looks like one feels like one, but still covers off all the recall.

Aaron Horne
The rules.

John McGregor
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s right. Well that’s where they’ve used, you know the with the photos, the back end of the tanks to look like the jet engines. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. So I was like, oh, shit, man, I hope someone does well.

Aaron Horne
Will keep up with the storm. Watch this space. The other thing that is in development at the moment and a big developed for Tasi last thing I want to cover off on was body rugby. AFL team announced 19th gear was in the state last week. Very, very big news that AFL licence has been approved here for Tassie. Hopefully we’ll get the Devils moniker from Warner Brothers.

Aaron Horne
I believe they’ve said that that’s something that could happen. But other than that there’s been some names thrown around the Tassie turbo chooks or the Tassie apple.

Patrick Berry
Come.

John McGregor
I’m 100% the turbo.

Aaron Horne
This is the crazy bit is like with the check jumpers. But when that was announced it’s like that sort of most ridiculous time ever.

Patrick Berry
Temperatures could work. Oh hell yeah.

Aaron Horne
I mean, they could. Well, yeah, yeah.

John McGregor
Oh, this is the thing is they’ll be proud of you, too. It took us a day and things can run. Yeah. You know, you try to tackle one of those bad boy, it’s not going to happen.

Patrick Berry
Someone was like, you know, if you call it the turbo chokes in the state, it could be like the hen house. So yeah, I’m on that somewhere online, so I’m on.

Aaron Horne
That at all. So yes, the stadium is going to be built or that is the, the, the, the federal government are chucking in money to make sure that that’s made, which was the final hurdle in getting the thing announced. So we’re having a footy team. What’s it mean for Hobart and Tasmania, gentlemen?

Patrick Berry
Well, it’s got to be an upward thing.

Aaron Horne
You would hope so.

Patrick Berry
I would have thought that having as silly as it sounds, an AFL team shouldn’t create an opportunity like it’s just a sporting team. But I think it does. I think it will. For starters, we’re going to be attracting mainland players to the state. Yep. But the big difference in my opinion as well is not just players that will have to relocate to fill the team, but also the fact that when we’ve had the North Melbourne and Hawthorn licences that they come in for four games a year, we’re only getting the B-grade teams or the lower sell out games and so it’s the team like the games that we get are the ones I know we’re

Patrick Berry
not going to sell out in Melbourne.

Aaron Horne
I like West Coast, they seem to care a lot.

Patrick Berry
They do and next weekend I think they play as well here and fair enough because no one’s going to that game.

Aaron Horne
No way, Jose.

Patrick Berry
It’s like if you think like you Collingwood’s your resident, your Richmond’s all having to play games here. Yes. Not only would that be amazing to feel that because people are staying, you’re never going to fill out that stadium of 23,000. We only get I think it’s seven to North Melbourne. Yeah. But it’s a team that’s underperforming and playing teams that normally are underperforming and.

John McGregor
There’s a very few loyal fan base here.

Patrick Berry
You bringing those A-grade teams to the state and you’re going to have tourism coming in from people flying down to watch that game. Yeah, like just like we go to Melbourne to watch footy, people will come to Hobart.

Aaron Horne
To watch, to say, yeah, so the game stops.

Patrick Berry
You’re going to have all the locals going as well because we’re finally seeing top quality.

Aaron Horne
Football. So it’s really interesting. In the last week and a half since they’ve announced that, I’ve been kind of just asking friends, kind of, would you like to switch? Are you going to stick with your team in the life? Oh, no, look, I wouldn’t switch, but I’ll block. I’ll get a membership straight up. Like I’ll get a foundation membership like and they’ll be my other team, which I think will be a big part of kind of our age bracket of people who are already.

Aaron Horne
But it’s.

Patrick Berry
The youngest.

Aaron Horne
As the younger kids. Exactly.

Patrick Berry
You just got to look at Hawthorn since Tasmania sponsored them. How many younger kids support Hawthorn? Yep. Like it’s not an official Tassie team, but there’s so many of the younger demographic that support the Hawthorn.

Aaron Horne
Yeah. And once you start capturing those younger ones I know like yeah. Then I would be taking the kids along and going along and saying I was going to say the Tassie. I think it’s gonna be a really big thing for bringing community together. And the Jack Jump has been a really good case study for it’s sold out.

Aaron Horne
People are really trying to make sure that they can get to the games. Yeah, if I can follow that model and like get in right now and get people excited and maintain that excitement for 2020, I think huge.

John McGregor
It would be interesting then because then they’d have to have a natural flow on effects to all the leagues down the road that brings brings through the talent. Yes. All the excitement to actually re-engage in footy that you’ve actually got a visual means basketball.

Patrick Berry
I think since Jack Jump started is the largest sporting black hole in the state at the.

Aaron Horne
Yeah and I don’t have enough.

Patrick Berry
Records showed us at the moment has he watched the amount of people that want to play in basketball. I think that’s what I thought the sport said.

Aaron Horne
Yes, there’s basically yeah, there there don’t have courts to facilitate. And even someone else told me the other day that was they were planning their community league, you know, Division 12 at Claremont High School College and they got booted off the court one time when the New Zealand Breakers had to come and train there. When they got stuck here for Cove it now looks like they’re going to claim a college fuck is professional sports team are training there.

John McGregor
Yeah. Yeah. Okay well I suppose the other thing too is that we’re going to for the entertainment industry, get some get some arena acts at this point.

Aaron Horne
Yes. So and that’s the other part of the state and the saying, you know, you big acts can kind of come down here and it’s affordable for them to do that. So all the positives around that site, I guess from the housing side of things and from our state, I added a fun thing. We’re talking about air the other day, you know, don’t you?

Patrick Berry
Actually, it’s fun. Everyone’s tuned out. So we. All right. So it’s the well, this is.

Aaron Horne
A fun bit. I literally was on the way to take one of my kids to the doctor’s and the announcement was on the radio. And as I opened Chatty Betty, I’m like, Ah! JJ would say, Right, me, I act as a journalist and write me an article explaining why one of the benefits of the team AFL team coming to Tasmania popped out.

Aaron Horne
This output was like effort to bad. I might like tweak it just a little bit so I was like, can you please refer to this, this and this to feel facts about it more within 40 minutes I’d sat in the car, tweaked, had enough on my phone that I could then come back and I said, What do you reckon about this?

Aaron Horne
Is like, yeah, it’s all the, it’s all the info that we kind of would say, like it’ll help boost everything around the stadium, bring jobs to the state. Tassie tourism will go gangbusters. So it’s was hitting all these things. That’s it.

Patrick Berry
The more tourism that goes gangbusters as a result of the team, the more restaurants that are full, the more money that is flowing as a general whole. Earning returns and people being able to buy homes and afford property. So it’s got to there’s no way that it can’t be a good return.

Aaron Horne
No, no. So it’s like I’m I’m super excited about it. Yeah, I was. That’s my mother inside football trick there. If anyone’s read that blog, which I also wanted to put out as be click baity. It’s a very click by the kind of topic there’s lots of debate on whether a stadium is a good idea or whether it should be going into other areas.

Aaron Horne
So yeah, I’ve got a few clicks on my, on my bait dangled mother loo out there and, and, and people responded in the way I thought they would. I actually thought I’d get more from it. So maybe, yeah, maybe I need to like really ramp it up. But yeah, look at the future of Tassie. Looks bright. Looks bright for our kids.

Aaron Horne
So yeah.

Patrick Berry
That’s all going ahead in leaps and bounds.

John McGregor
I think it’s a thought where one of the biggest things I’ve found about Tassie is if you can’t leave, you’re trapped. You know, we’re exposed interstate, you can move across different state lines, etc., but if you’re in intensity like it’s almost restrictive in the sense it is a small state and it is what looks it’s harder to get out at least if there’s like points of reference where you can look to and say, hey, there are amazing opportunities still available in the state that can take you places.

John McGregor
Yeah, yeah. These kind of things are an incredible way to do that. I think.

Patrick Berry
What.

Aaron Horne
Woke up the fall and I said, Honey, Jack and Henry like a play for Tassie. I can play testing the AFL so you never know.

John McGregor
I let’s move with that. I’m with that.

Aaron Horne
You never know. All right. Well you never know what’s going on, on the prairie pod a hopefully that way. Not that it’s very dangerous I don’t think. Oh the all my technical plans work for today. I had a bit of a break in the middle, but we’ll see how the I set for that man. I’m going to be just sitting at home having I do everything for me by the end of the year.

Patrick Berry
He’s making his job redundant under the most part.

Aaron Horne
I didn’t tell any of that guy from Wall-E that just sits there in his chair and has everything done for him. You just get more done. Exactly. All right, guys, thank you. We’ll be back next week. Maybe we’ll talk about federal budget if we’re brave enough. Only time will tell. Thanks for listening. Like share. Subscribe to all the things.

Patrick Berry
You like to go by.

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